“[The studio] was in Detroit and I was playing a gig in Detroit. And yeah, I arrived,” Ed said of their initial hang. “He’s got loads of games consoles there. He loves games. I actually bought him a Nintendo 64 with [GoldenEye 007] on it as a gift. I just stepped in there. Actually, first time we met, we didn’t make music. I hung out there for about four hours, and we just spoke Marvel and Avengers for about four hours. And then the next time I went back, we made a tune. The first tune we made, I was in Mexico and his producer flew to Mexico, and I did the hook there and stuff.”
Judd then cued up “River” from Em’s 2017 album Revival. They teamed up again in 2018 on “Remember the Name” from Ed’s No. 6 Collaborations Project and “Those Kinda Nights” from Shady’s 2020 Music to Be Murdered By.
The singer also talked about the special bond he has with his brother as an adult, and why he always shows young fans a video of him from 2014 playing the early song “Addicted.” According to Sheeran, “I don’t think I could actually technically sing until 18 … I don’t think anyone’s actually ever born with talent — you have to practice and you have to hone it.”
On Wednesday (Aug. 11), Sheeran confirmed that he’s got a “Bad Habits” remix coming with British rappers Tion Wayne and Central Cee.
Check out a clip of the chat here and the “Habits” remix tease below.